the puc has a very robust program. so, we're going to -- we don't have to develop our program from scratch. we can take a lot of the practices that they've developed ways of automating or streamlining the process so that we'll be able to do so in the existing budget that we have. [laughter] >> but, i mean, it was important to raise the point as we did in the presentation that the cp in particular does require more resources. but through the efficiencies that ms. bose has achieved and will continue to, we have every confidence that we'll be able to manage [speaker not understood]. >> well done. >> thank you, director, for your support. >> okay. anybody else? any member of the public wish to address the board on this? >> nobody is rushing forward, mr. chairman. >> thank you very much. appreciate your support. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> ms. miller? >> aye tim 14, discussion and vote pursuant to administrative code section 67.10(d) as to whether to conduct a closed session. >> is there a motion? second? all in favor sa